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Monday, 16 January 2023

RA-RA SKIRT | Dancing with the Stars celeb Stephanie Roche says, ‘I’d love to dance to a Wolfe Tones song '

...just not that one, says soccer star StephanieStephanie with dance partner Ervinas

Dancing With The Stars celebrity Stephanie Roche has defended her fellow football players from the Ireland ladies team after they were caught up in controversy singing ‘Ooh Ah Up the ‘Ra’ in celebrations when they qualified for the World Cup.

And while Stephanie admits she would think twice about dancing to the Wolfe Tones pro-IRA ‘Celtic Symphony’ song which contains the disputed line, she would be up for performing to another number from the band as she’s a huge fan.

So much so, the Dubliner confirms she was thrilled last weekend during rehearsals for the hit show to meet Wolfe Tones frontman Brian Warfield, who penned ‘Celtic Symphony’.

“It was great to have him there. I loved the band as a kid, so just to have him there was nice,” says the 33-year-old Shamrock Rovers player and former Ireland star.

The FAI was fined €20,000 by Uefa after complaints about members of the Irish women’s team singing along to ‘Celtic Symphony’ in their dressing room last October, which was even the subject of a police investigation.

““I know every one of those girls, I know there was never any malice in it. “It was just about celebrating the moment they had and they got caught in the moment and unfortunately it was caught on video and other people take a different perception of it. “ It’s a proud moment, the girls were in the heat of the moment qualifying for the World Cup. “There’s obviously words that some people don’t agree with, but I don’t think there was any malice in it,” she argues.

“I’d have to avoid anything to do with that,” said Stephanie when asked if she’d dance to that tune.

But she is considering doing a routine to a different Wolfe Tones song.

“I’ve always been a big fan of them, I love their music, I love their story telling. I think they keep the history of our country alive,” she says.

​ Stephanie finished bottom last week with a score of 13.

“This weekall the ladies are doing ballroom, all the lads are doing Latin. Our dance is the foxtrot and we are dancing to Love Song by Sara Bereilles,.

“I just want to enjoy the experience as best I can, it’s something I will never do again.”​

Dancing With The Stars was broadcast on Saturday night on RTÉ1 6.30pm

With many thanks to the: Sunday World and Eugene Masterson for the original story. 







Sunday, 16 October 2022

Streisand Effect Complete As Celtic Symphony Sang At LOI Terraces

A video has emerged of St. Pats fans belting out the Wolfe Tone's Celtic Symphony at Richmond Park last night.                 October 15th, 2022. 
Pats took on Bohemians, whom they beat 3-1, and the controversial 'ooh ah up the ra' lyrics can be heard loud and clear in the clip below.

The video of the Irish women's football team's rendition of the song, following their sensational World Cup qualifying win over Scotland, has dominated headlines and social media conversation since Tuesday.

Unsurprisingly, this has lead to the 'Streisand effect' rearing its head, as evidenced in the clip of the from yesterday's League of Ireland fixture.


A definition of the phenomenon, taken from the internet, goes as follows: "The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet."

It takes its name from the legendary actress/singer, after she tried to suppress a photo of her cliff-top Malibu mansion from being shared, which inadvertently drew greater attention to it in 2003.

St. Pats Sing Celtic Symphony

Follow this link to watch St Pats fans video: No apologies 🤐🤐
Some of the talk around the subject has centred on the meaning of the song, with many arguing that it shouldn't be viewed as offensive, due to the fact that it is about Celtic FC and graffiti.

         You Can Read A Section Of The                 Lyrics Below And Decide For                                    Yourself.

"Graffiti on the walls just as the sun was going down,
I seen graffitti on the walls( Of the CELTS, Of the CELTS),
Graffitti on the walls that says we're Magic, We're Magic,
Graffiti on the walls.......Graffiti on the walls........
And it said..............
Ooh ah up the Ra, say ooh ah up the Ra (x6)."

With many thanks to Balls and  Coleman Stanley for original story 





Friday, 14 October 2022

Wolfe Tones singer says those who criticise ▪️ 'Ooh ah up the 'Ra' chant are 'cranks and unionists' following football video. They also forgot to mention in the picture ▪️ #NoCatholics

One of the lead vocalists of the Wolfe Tones, Brian Warfield, has said those who criticise their song Celtic Symphony are “cranks and unionists or people who side with them”. They also forgot to mention in the picture▪️#NoCatholics. 

              October 13th, 2022.
His remarks to the Irish Times come as the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) apologised after a video emerged of the Republic of Ireland’s women’s football team chanting ‘Ooh ah up the Ra’ – a line from the 1987 track. 

Warfield is credited as the writer of the track and claims the line is not “necessarily referring to the Provisional IRA” - instead saying it was inspired by a line of graffiti he saw on a wall in Glasgow. 
  The Wolfe Tones track Celtic Symphony        has now re-entered Ireland's music          charts in the wake of all the hype and        is now sitting at No:1 in the Irish music                               charts... 

On Wednesday, a video was widely circulated on social media showing Ireland’s players celebrating their win against Scotland in Hampden Park, which saw them qualify for the 2023 World Cup, chanting the line from the song.

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Alongside the FAI, the team’s manager Vera Pauw and some players later apologised for the team’s actions, the latter saying it was a “lapse in judgment.” 

"From the bottom of our heart, we are so sorry because there is no excuse for hurting people. It was unnecessary,” said Pauw, who said she was not in the changing room when the chanting occurred. 
Dublin born musician Mr Warfield said the women were being “persecuted and bullied for a song they like”.

“What the hell is wrong with IRA? It is the Irish Republican Army. It is the people who put us here and gave us some hope when we had no hope.”
      Another example they mascarade           themselves as anti-Protocol protesters       but in reality its the paramilitary wing                     of the outlawed UVF 

Warfield, who performs alongside Noel Nagle and Tommy Byrne in the group also referred to how critics of the song had “no problem with God Save the King even though it now honours King Charles III, who was the honorary colonel of the Parachute Regiment which shot dead 13 civilians on Bloody Sunday in Derry in 1972.” 

“There were terrible things that happened on both sides, but don’t give me the argument that it was one sided,” he continued. 
 Celtic Symphony has also re-entered the   UK music charts because of all the hype     and is now sitting at No2 in the chart. 

“Don’t tell that you can’t sing Celtic Symphony but you can sing God Save the King? Don’t give the argument that Land of Hope and Glory isn’t a rebel song. It is." 
   ◾'Up the Ra' 🎶◾'Rule Britannia' 🎶 

 “In England they wear poppies and rise them up to ‘sir this’ and ‘sir that’ for killing for English expansionism but to kill to gain Ireland’s freedom is a terrible crime" he said, before adding that members of his family “died in the First World War.” 

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Warfield’s remarks are not the first time he has weighed in on criticism of his song. In August he told the Irish Daily Star: "We're entitled to our own song and culture” following Belfast's Feile an Phobail which was branded a “hate-fest” after concert-goers also chanted the ‘Ooh ah up the Ra’ line during their performance. 
        #NoCatholicsAboutThisPlace                         #NoCatholicFirstMinister

"They might give titles and medals back to the people who killed for England over the years - Sir or Lord this - but we don't give titles to the Irish people that fought for freedom. What we do is we give them a song in their memory."

With many thanks to the: Belfast Telegraph and Kurtis Reid for the original story. 



Thursday, 13 October 2022

Una Mullally: What does it mean to say 'up the 'Ra'? And why does it keep happening?

The women’s soccer team knew what they were doing: it’s just that what they’re doing means something different now
        The Ireland squad celebrates                      qualifying for the World Cup.                     Photograph: INPHO/FAI POOL                                    PICTURES        Thursday October 13th, 2022. 
As the heroes of Irish soccer, the women’s football team, danced in their dressing room, they played the Wolfe Tones’ song, Celtic Symphony, which contains the line, “Ooh ah up the ’Ra”, and they sang along. They then had to apologise for this, and be patronised by a British broadcaster on Sky, who wondered whether there is an issue with education in the team when it comes to Irish history, a ridiculous thing for someone in British media to say, given that nation’s epic blind spots regarding its own history.

There is a question about whether it’s objectively offensive to chant “up the ’Ra”, and the answer is pretty obvious: yes it is. It is offensive to victims of the Troubles-era IRA. But the broader question is, why does a context exist in which it is not just still chanted, but in fact becoming more common?


There’s another question, too, about diversity of thought in our social bubbles. I personally exist in a context where I sometimes hear “up the ’Ra” and “tiocfaidh ár lá” socially, often jokingly, but often as an umbrella toast to republicanism. But clearly many other people don’t. I also exist in a social context where many people I know abhor such rhetoric. I don’t say “up the ’Ra”, because I think it diminishes and collapses complex things into an edgy soundbite. I think it is offensive to victims of the Troubles-era IRA. By the same token, I think anti-Irish songs are also appalling, and I find English football fans singing “Rule Britannia” offensive.

The evolution of contemporary rhetoric, terminology, and discourse is driven by youth culture. But in Ireland, we have a situation where younger people are reclaiming and reinventing republican sloganeering and are then admonished by many within older generations, which is a weird exercise in political correctness in reverse.

In fairness, saying “I don’t mean to endorse the IRA by chanting ‘Up the ’Ra’,” is the same sort of thin defence as, “I don’t mean to be homophobic by calling something ‘gay’.” You kind of have to own it if you’re going to say it. The scary thing for older generations is that a lot of younger Irish people do actually own it. Maybe because they didn’t live through it. But maybe it’s also because an incredible amount of young Irish people identify as republican. Look at the polls in political party support. It’s right there.


Often, our own interpretations and disassociations regarding slogans may be honestly innocent and throwaway, but that’s not how they’re received, and it’s certainly not how similar utterances were previously contextualised. But contexts change. Younger generations are aware of the older generations’ squeamishness regarding republicanism, and this in turn consolidates their gravitation towards republicanism, because it allows for something every generation wants: a differentiating factor between generations that evokes defiance.
  Katie McCabe of the Republic of Ireland     celebrates with teammates after their           side qualifies for the 2023 FIFA                   Women's World Cup after victory              against Scotland. Photograph: Ian                     MacNicol/Getty Images 

Terms like “pearl-clutching” are thrown around to diminish the concerns of the older generation. That’s unfair, probably, but the shocked-and-appalled reactions to cultural realities are also tedious to many young people. Additionally, the context that has been created for Irish republicanism to be culturally connected to new generations is also to do with how many of the tropes that previously made Irish republicanism unfashionable, and which many in older generations still think of when it comes to republicanism — macho culture, violence, sectarianism, Catholic fundamentalism — have been dismantled.


Alongside all of this, one of the unspoken generational shifts that has occurred in Ireland is the lack of deference young Irish people have towards Britain. This has to do with an Irish pride that is rooted in confidence, not fear, or shame, or feelings of inadequacy created through comparison. The balance of comparisons between both countries has changed: why would someone in Ireland be envious of someone in Britain right now? Ireland is no longer backward, and Britain is going backwards.

The Video footage: has emerged of Ireland football players singing an IRA chant in their dressing-room moments after their historic qualifier victory in Glasgow.

It is a fact that anti-Britishness is increasingly acceptable socially in Ireland, but that also has a context. It’s about disliking the British state and establishment — not British people. The British political establishment hasn’t been doing itself any favours in recent years. Simultaneously, a re-examination of British colonialism across the water has been driven by young people there, and this British discourse is also available to younger people in Ireland.
Younger generations are embarking upon a decontextualisation of republicanism that is messy, complex, and to some, wrong-headed and shocking. But it is happening because we are living in a culture where Irish republicanism is ascendant. Paulie Doyle’s 2019 piece for Vice, in which he examined the viral nature of Irish republican slogans as memes, and his 2017 piece on Gerry Adams as a meme, are well worth a read or reread for those who are out of touch with this culture.
   Denise O'Sullivan of Republic of Ireland     celebrates after their side qualifies for         the 2023 FIFA Women's World Cup.              Photograph: Ian MacNicol/Getty                                      Images 

What a lot of the media and the political establishment doesn’t understand is how dominant Irish pride, patriotism and indeed republicanism is as a backdrop to new generations in their thinking, identity and in their popular culture. For the media, the absence of clarity on this issue is due to a generation gap and a conservatism in the commentariat that often sits in a pro-status-quo anti-republicanism, filtered through an anti-Sinn Féin bias.

Fianna Fáil calls itself a republican party, but the dominance of Sinn Féin has usurped its republicanism. A couple of years ago, I heard from a middle-class first-time voter that to be politically engaged in Ireland among his peers in their late teens was to be a Sinn Féin supporter. I think many journalists, for example, think that Sinn Féin has loads of support despite their republicanism, and in spite of their primary policy being Irish unity. I understand why this mental gymnastics is happening, because it would be overwhelming for many people to actually contend with the reality that Sinn Féin’s overt republicanism is part of their popularity.

Contemporary Irish nationalism is complex, but it does dovetail with an optimistic, forward-looking pride. This pride has emerged not from an oppressive context, but from a context that has opened up, where new generations have attempted to peel away oppressive forces — primarily Irish theocracy and social conservatism — and create instead a context of equality, the central tenet of republicanism anywhere.

This pride, I believe, is nonsectarian, and yet the framework of national pride that we have to work with historically was sectarian, was anti-English, and did orientate around republicanism and concepts of Irish “freedom”. It is inevitable that as this pride morphs and evolves and is distanced from the past, things will become distorted, twisted, and there will be weird outcomes, such as a group of young women footballers in a dressing room with a Spotify playlist that’s just as likely to contain the Wolfe Tones as it is Taylor Swift. It’s worth mentioning that “Up the ‘Ra” is not a new slogan to Irish soccer. Indeed, one of the most famous Irish player chants, celebrating Paul McGrath, emerged from it.

The idea that young Irish people don’t know their history is ridiculous. Yes, of course, time passes. The memories of the Troubles are not live for new generations. How could they be? That can be incredibly difficult to take for people who lived through that time, suffered during it, were victims of it, and lost loved ones to IRA violence. It requires reminding that IRA violence — as abhorrent as it was, had a context. That’s not a defence, but it is a reason.

It also requires reminding that the IRA wasn’t the only entity maiming and killing people. There is a strange, even hurtful positivity in the contemporary context. Republican slogans and memes and chants being said, sung and shared by post-Belfast Agreement generations, demonstrate the bittersweet evidence of the absence of frequent sectarian violence on this island, that the potency of these slogans has been lost because the violence has waned.

There remains a disconnect between North and South. There is a frivolity to republican sloganeering in the South that does not exist in the North. Go figure. This is perhaps yet more evidence of southern ignorance in relation to the North. How odd to see this ignorance reborn as republicanism — the very thing the nationalist community in the North failed to see evidence of from the South in terms of connection or solidarity for decades. What a strange journey for southern apathy to take.
   Denise O'Sullivan celebrates with Ciara     Grant. Photograph: Ryan Byrne/INPHO

Questions of Irish identity abound today, and the political establishment does not answer them. If the old forces of authority — the Catholic Church, the Fianna Fáil-Fine Gael binary — have had their grip loosened, then what do we cling on to now, when those old forces of control floundered in framing identity and direction, and are therefore deemed irrelevant?

Yet it was the State that instigated something that contributed to the rise of new republicanism. The success and impact of the cultural activity and national discourse in 2016 regarding the 1916 centenary is still in the air. You cannot spend a year talking about our patriot dead, the great heroes of republicanism, offering new insights — particularly feminist framings — of revolution, literally have military parades in the Irish capital, display iconography everywhere, create multiple new avenues into this history, make it accessible, talk big ideas, and then expect people not to engage with republicanism.

It is incredibly patronising to say young people in Ireland don’t understand their history or the past. If anything, these new generations are profoundly engaged with the past (and with the future) because they have been made reassess and reimagine in ways previous generations could not, such was those generations’ experiences of oppression and indoctrination.

We are witnessing a profound cultural shift in this country that has emerged from a confluence of factors underpinned by generational change, one that is under-recognised and misunderstood. Patronising young people for their engagement with republicanism — through meme, song, philosophy, history, messy reinterpretations, culture, frivolousness, seriousness or otherwise — is wrong-headed and out of touch.

I don’t believe the women’s football team was thinking deeply about what they were singing. But that’s the thing, isn’t it? Not digging deep doesn’t mean the articulation is shallow. When something is in the culture, it’s right there on the surface, and it pops up. Yes, “Up the ‘Ra” is offensive to many people. Yes, it is chanted by many people. Yes, it is shocking to many people. Yes, it is familiar to many people. Assuming “they don’t know what they’re doing” is wrong. They do know what they’re doing, it’s just that what they’re doing means something different now.

Unless those appalled by that begin to understand the contemporary context, how Irish culture is moving, and where the politics impacted by that culture is going, they will feel even more discombobulated as Irish republicanism and Irish nationalism grow.

With many thanks to the: Irish Times and Una Mullally for the original publication. 


◾'Up the Ra' 🎶◾'Rule Britannia' 🎶 If you're totally offended by the former... but not in slightest by the latter, there in lies the problem.

Here is footage of the Republic of Ireland players singing 'Ooh ah up the 'Ra' in their dressingroom. The manager, players and FAI have subsequently apologised #rtesoccer 
rte.ie/sport/soccer/2…



Can someone tell me where in this song it says IRA, is about the IRA, is remotely anything to do with the IRA



              "TIOCFAIDH ÁR LÁ"